Disney seques that you pretend never happned

[faya27]

What disney direct-to-video sequels do you pretend that never happened and why.

For me,

Pocahontas 2-terrible animation, and I don't like how they made Pocahontas left John Smith for John Rolfe. I know it is historically accurate but if they wanted her to be with rolfe instead of smith, then they should done that in the first film.

Little Mermaid 2-the plot was a rehash of the first film and everybody was dumber than a rock. I like Melody but I wish she was given an original personality instead of someone who acts like Ariel only with Eric's hair and that is annoying! I don't like the fact that Ariel and Eric were dumb parents to Melody. I like to think that post 1989 film, Ariel and Eric, had four kids and took them to visit Atlantica during the holidays. (Although, sometimes Eric would have to stay on land to take care of kingdom duties).

Aladdin 2-Although the plot was more tolerable than the other sequels, I didn't like the way Jasmine was portrayed. She seemed mean and unfair whereas in the first film, she was a little bit nicer. In the Aladdin 3, she was too nice, which is annoying. I like Iago as a good guy but in canon, he is still considered as a bad guy.

Peter Pan 2-I don't like the fact that Wendy grew up and had kids. Jane was a total brat-in the book and play, she believed in Peter pan as much as her mother did, so I don't know why they made her into a practical kid. Since I'm a wendy/peter pan fan, I like to think that Peter Pan came back for Wendy and took her to Neverland post 1953 film.
And if Walt wanted Wendy to have Jane, he would have done so by adding the ending where Peter pan comes to take Wendy but she is all grown up so he ends up taking Jane instead.

Cinderella 3-plot was great but it still wasn't as good as the 1950 film. There are a few versions of Cinderella where one stepsister is kind to Cinderella while the other one is as nasty as the stepmother. Still, the transition of Anastasia from the mean stepsister to a good one was odd-it came out of nowhere. If Walt wanted Anastasia to be a good stepsister, he would have done so in the original film.

[fridamoonbeam]

I think most of us dislike TLM2 strongly here lolz. I have to disagree about Melody though.

I think she has a lot of her dad's personality to her. I dunno if it was intentional or unintentional. She's curious and loves to explore like mom but she doesn't have Ariel's confidence or grace. She however seems to have a more solid sense of balance to her (her straw broke when she found out she'd been LIED to for her entire life, causing emotional trauma that could have been avoided) and she was pretty mature wanting to do the right thing for her family and the kingdom, and not so much on her emotions. She's also quiet and kind of awkward like dad is and strikes me as being a good student. I think Mel is a good balance. Also the difference between 12 and 16 is HUGE since you don't have the same issues going on. Mel's movie was just terribly executed and thought out, as well as unoriginal. There could have been better things to do with the plot for certain, as I've discussed with Kelly, Jess, Mare and Vi, many, many times xD

I like the Aladdin sequels of most Disney movies. I think Jasmine had a right to be mad in the second movie since Aladdin hid Iago when there was no reason to. It sends a bad message to your boyfriend/girlfriend when you hide things like that. No, the plots aren't as good as the first movie, and have character issues at times but I enjoy them over-all. Can't say that about most of the sequels. lolz

I loved Cindy 3. The thing from what we've been handed in the first movie about the sisters is that they have potential to be developed more. I like that Anastasia wasn't so nasty but more so a spoiled product of her mom. Its more realistic to me that a person wouldn't just be plain nasty, however there are cases where some people are just mean, and there we get Drizella.

Lord help me I did watch the Hunchback of Notre Dame 2. What a mess. There are so many things wrong with it. Granted I think the girl they paired Quasi with in this movie is a much better match for him then Esme. She's a sweeter girl who had been through a similar thing, though she wasn't as shy as Quasi.

However, Esmeralda isn't the butt-kicker I loved in the first movie, instead she's REALLY passive. Pheobus is changed into a judgemental jerk and she doens't have much of a reaction when he says insulting things about people like herself. Not to mention it was over all so happy and cheery it was just non-sensical taking into account how dark the first movie was.

BatB OEC is cute. It's not perfect and has a lot of OOC moments making Beast too emo and Belle too weak-willed though like the Aladdin movies, I still enjoyed it as a whole. And Tim Curry's voice....

LOL. I never saw Peter Pan 2, or the second Pocahontas. I just didn't like the first ones all that much. Not counting John Smith, Thomas, Wiggins, and Mr. Smee xD

[Zavi]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Bambi II. It was actually one of Disney's better sequels, but everyone except The Great Prince (who got an excellent characterization) suffered from Character Derailment to the extreme and it was just awful. The animation was very good, however. But it could've been so much better than it was. So much of the meaning of the first film was lost to this, even though the animators did their best to stick to it. The visuals didn't make up for the poor characterization of every single character other than GP.

[DanTheMan]

Meh, I liked TLM II. Could've been better, but I didn't think it was horrible.

I'll have to agree with Pocahantas II. It was almost nothing like the first movie.

Same with Peter Pan II. They tried to rehash it, but forgot that people are connected with characters, and that's why it flopped IMO.

[WickedElphie]

I've said my piece on TLM2 many times, so not gonna go into it here.

I actually have a soft spot for Peter Pan 2. LOL I occasionally have my slightly know-it-all moments so I can identify with Jane. Besides her behavior is classic oldest child, mixed in with the fact that she's growing up during freakin' World War 2. The plot is meh but I enjoy her character enough that I find it watchable.

Pocahontas 2 did suck. Another one for the list is Belle's Magical World which was very dull and clearly written for the preschool set.

Return of Jafar-I side with Jodi. Jasmine had good reason to be mad. And she gets over it fairly quickly. And as far as 'canon' goes, I'm not sure what you mean by the word, because I've never seen the idea of Iago as a bad guy who turned good contradicted anywhere. They even used it as a plot point in Kingdom Hearts 2.

Cinderella 3 IMO is one of, if not *the* best Disney Sequels. And much as I hate to bring up CInderella 2, which was God-awful, that did show Anastasia having some redeeming qualities while still being bratty, which was the only tolerable storyline in the whole mess. So in 3 they took that character development and ran with it, and IMO, did it really well.

[Coral]

I stay away from the majority of them. Only seen the TLM ones, Aladdin and Cindy 2. That one was awful! It always gets my vote for worst sequel ever.

I never cared much for the original Pocahontas anyway, so there was no reason for me to want to see the sequel. I really don't like how Disney completely rewrote American history and turned it into a New Age-emo fest. The real story is so much more interesting, but heaven forbid Hollywood do anything that looks on Christianity and the colonization of the New World with a favorable attitude.

[DanTheMan]

Disney does tend to rewrite a lot of orginal stories, and even history, I mean look at TLM lol..

[Coral]

It's easier for me to accept rewriting a story. With TLM the core elements of the original story were still there. With Pocahontas, the only core elements that were unchanged were the names!

Pocahontas was 10 when she met John Smith.

[DanTheMan]

Really? Wow, Disney couldn't have done that lol..

[WickedElphie]

Mind out of the gutter Dan There wasn't anything romantic between them. And her saving him from the axe may have been ceremonial.

[DanTheMan]

Jan 31, 2011 8:51:54 GMT -5 WickedElphie said:

Mind out of the gutter Dan There wasn't anything romantic between them. And her saving him from the axe may have been ceremonial.

Not my mind, but it would've been on a bunch of other peoples' mind if they did show something like that. It was best for them to avoid a matter such as that

[faya27]

EDIT: Or they could have changed the characters' names (like naming the heroine, "Little Deer," and the captain, "Captain David") and say that the movie is loosely based on the story of Pocahontas.
If they did that, then the movie would have been as successful and as memorable as TLM, BatB, Aladdin, and TLK. (And Pocahontas would have showed up more on the DP merchandise).