The Eric Discussion Thread

[WickedElphie]

I'd definitely agree that while Eric wants to live up to the responsibility that's been laid on him, he doesn't really *enjoy* being a ruler.

With the Glowerhaven thing my thoughts were that tentative initial overtures were made about a possible marriage but that Eric shot it down fairly quickly once he was sure that the Princess wasn't the one for him.

[Coral]

That's always been my feelings about Glowerhaven too. Eric himself even says it had to do with love and marriage. "You're not still sore because I didn't fall for the Princess of Glowerhaven, are you?" That's pretty telling about what the purpose of the visit was.

But it so interesting that there is enough gray area for so many interpretations of his character, without sacrificing what we do know about him.

[zoccarris]

Well from the point of view of Eric and Grim, the Glowerhaven visit was always primarily about a possible marriage. I agree that that much is obvious. However, unless they're almost entirely certain that it will happen, they have to have some kind of pretext for otherwise being there. That's part of where my speculation arises from.

[WickedElphie]

I figured the pretext was typlical diploamtic stuff. Trade agreements or wartime alliance promises or whatever.

[oceanlily]

Hey Er-heads sorry I'm late at joining!
Just thought I'd share my obsessed-fan-blabber with you all
Found this on Daring to Dream and thought this might help a bit with the recent discussion.
Scroll down to the second box
cbl.orcein.net/thelittlemermaid/comics.htm

[fathomsbelow]

Thanks for the link
I've read that comic, it was hilarious. Poor Eric. The look on his face in the second picture is priceless.

I also think Eric went to see the princess for a diplomatic reason too, but knowing Grim he probably set him up. The underlying purpose was a prospective marriage. But I don't think Eric took one look at her and said no. I think he tried to get to know her but obviously there was no spark between them.

[Coral]

I have the first set of LE comics, but not the other two. So far in my quest to complete my comic collection they have eluded me.

[oceanlily]

-nods- I TOTALLY agree with you on the 'getting to know her first' thing Fathom.
I've always thought of Eric as the type of guy who would never judge a book by its cover. He's never superficial about his views on others and is probably not such an open-speak-my-mind type of person.
On the diplomatic side of things I think Grim would have probably set up the meeting to give Eric a push into meeting other Women and helping him to find to find that special someone (or future queen).

[Coral]

BTW, welcome aboard! Please do post an introduction thread so we can get to know you.

[oceanlily]

Thanks Coral!
Will post an introduction thread soon
I'm taking control now of the thread now *devious laugh* NEW TOPIC *dramatic sound effect*
What kind of father would Eric be like? Since you've discussed about his mom and dad maybe we should discuss about him.

[Coral]

I don't think we've been that direction yet.

I totally throw out TLM 2. There's not enough of him pictured to be able to grasp how well he fathered Melody.

I see him as being fair, but tough. He has to train his oldest child to rule after all. That would always be tempered with a sense of justice though, and a desire to see his children happy above all else.

[WickedElphie]

One part of my personal take on Eric's parenting style is that he'd very seldom raise his voice. Instead he'd have one of those very quiet serious tones that lets you know you're in deep trouble.

I think he wouldn't be *overly* tough on his kids, but I do see him taking care to make sure they didn't grow up spoiled or selfish. And every once in a while he'd end up being a softy.

Also IMO he'd be very easy to talk to and confide in about stuff.

[fathomsbelow]

Jun 20, 2009 18:20:01 GMT -5 oceanlily said:

-nods- I TOTALLY agree with you on the 'getting to know her first' thing Fathom.
I've always thought of Eric as the type of guy who would never judge a book by its cover. He's never superficial about his views on others and is probably not such an open-speak-my-mind type of person.
On the diplomatic side of things I think Grim would have probably set up the meeting to give Eric a push into meeting other Women and helping him to find to find that special someone (or future queen).

Thanks. You can call me Melissa btw

When it comes to Eric's parenting, I sort of ignore TLM2 also. It makes dearest Eric look bad I mean, obviously Ariel was wearing the pants in that marriage XD XD

I think he'd be sort of protective, but not overprotective since I'm sure he knows about Ariel's experiences with King Triton. I think he'd be strict, but not overly. I'm sure he'd want what's best for his daughter, but he'd still want her to be happy.

Kinda off-topic, but I found this really cute Ariel/Eric fanvideo:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvRiuhQW_64

[Coral]

*makes a note to come back and watch vid tomorrow*

[oceanlily]

I always thought as Ariel as the stern but Loving one and Eric as the Understanding but protective father. He would consider his daughters feelings first and would always make sure she was happy with every decision she makes. You can imagine him cooing over Melody (If your going with TLM2) as a little girl! <3
Does anybody else here the word 'fan fic' come to mind? *raise eyebrows*

[WickedElphie]

Heh, When my long fic BSS is finally done I have an plotbunny for a fic that would focus *extensively* on the relationship between Melody and Eric, though not in the way you might expect.

[Zavi]

Oooh, you have me intrigued already.

It's tough to think about Eric as a parent after his performance in TLM2, but I know a couple things. From where he is at the end of TLM1 I don't think he's ready to be a father yet--he has to accept his place as ruler first, and then parenting will follow. Once he gets his life sorted out for the most part, he can throw it on its side again with Melody. (: I can imagine him seeing a lot of himself in his daughter, so he'd parent through his understanding. Mel's got two parents who value their freedom above all else--it probably won't take long for Eric to realize his daughter needs it too.

[oceanlily]

I'm dying to know the plot-bunny Elphie! And what do you mean by 'not in the way you would expect'?
In the middle of a one-shot fan fic myself so I'll be keeping myself busy on the 'writing' front.

[WickedElphie]

Sorry, the lid on that particular plotbunny is staying shut for now. It'll be very apparent when the fic actually starts, though.

[fridamoonbeam]

Yowza! I'm SO far behind!

L-O- freaking L at the princess of Glowerhaven comic. In an old fic of mine I wrote her as kind of being like Aurora. Very sweet and pretty, but she lacks the qualities that really matter to him.

Anyhoot, I try to reference TLM2 as much as possible (even threw it out comepletely writing TTWDPF) But i agree with Rachel. Eric is a sweetie for sure and would let little things slide and try to empathize from his own experience as a young royal. However, he's not one to look at as a push over, and like a lot of dad's that really care about their children- they tend to give/tell the things they believe their kids need, not as important as WHAT they think the kids want to hear. LOL