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Post by WickedElphie on Jun 22, 2009 13:26:58 GMT -5
Right. When she wears the "tour" dress without the bow on the third day she looks much less childish.
I'm wondering if Grim/Carlotta added the bow on purpose to put the most innocent spin on the situation possible. (i.e "Aww, the Prince is being kind to the poor ship-wrecked girl. "VS "So the Prince found a beautiful girl half-naked on the beach and took her home with-" *thwak!* "Why are you hitting me?")
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Post by Coral on Jun 22, 2009 15:16:40 GMT -5
I love the Broadway dress too! It's very Danish.
The blue dress is also period correct for the movie being set in the late 1700's, with the exception of it being just a little too short.
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Post by Zavi on Jun 23, 2009 13:58:46 GMT -5
I like the contrast between her having and not having the giant floppy bow. You can go aww in Kiss The Girl and still see Ariel's strong character when she dives after the wedding ship.
But for fanfic or fanart purposes I prefer her without the bow.
I love the neutral colors on the Broadway dress! It makes her seem less like a princess and more like she needs a romp in a meadow. Not that she seems uptight in any other dress, but that one just looks more humble.
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Post by Aquisha on Aug 21, 2009 15:30:52 GMT -5
The only problem I've ever had with any of her dresses is why on earth would you put a red-head in a pink dress! All of my red-headed friends agree that this was an enormous mistake! Personally I love the seafoam green dress she wears in the parks. It's beautiful and actually makes her hair stand out. *Sigh* Someone has to look out for Ariel's coloring! And, color aside, the pink dress in the Broadway show is just the most adorable thing! It's just very playful and light and I think it's perfect for Ariel...apart from the color...and the historically inaccurate length...  |
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Post by Coral on Aug 21, 2009 17:36:13 GMT -5
I always imagine the pink dress as sea foam green, and I've never seen the park dress!
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Post by fathomsbelow on Aug 21, 2009 19:28:37 GMT -5
Yeah, I like the pink dress in the musical better than the one in the movie as well. I'm not sure what the sea foam green one looks like, since I haven't stumbled across Ariel in the parks.  |
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Post by Zavi on Aug 21, 2009 21:03:51 GMT -5
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Post by fathomsbelow on Aug 21, 2009 21:10:48 GMT -5
Thanks for the link  I want that dress XD. And Eric, but I won't get into that. This behind-the-scenes TLM Broadway book got me thinking--how much of Ariel's character do you think they changed to fit the musical? Not drastically, but sort of altered a bit? |
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Post by Coral on Aug 22, 2009 11:59:14 GMT -5
I WANT THAT DRESS!!!!!!!!!! It's so perfectly Ariel. Moreso than the pink one. Whoever designed it gets an A++.
I haven't been able to get the behind the scenes book yet. Or the big glossy program. When I saw it the programs weren't ready yet.
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Post by Zavi on Aug 23, 2009 12:13:16 GMT -5
My goodness, Rachel, I think I heard that all the way over here! I can't agree more, though. It makes me smile just looking at it! *nuzzle* I did a quick search for more and found this: Somebody PLEASE tell Eric to meet a pair of scissors! But Ariel's other dress is nice.Once the music hits you, inhibitions fall away...Good question, Melissa! It would probably help if I, y'know, actually saw the show, but from what I've seen it doesn't seem too drastic. There's obviously a difference between show!Eric and movie!Eric, but they're both Eric. Stubborn, ocean-eyed young lads who want nothing more than to sail free with their favorite mermaid. What kind of differences struck you between show!Ariel and movie!Ariel? |
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Post by Coral on Aug 24, 2009 12:34:23 GMT -5
Those are both gorgeous dresses! And yes, Eric needs to visit the barber shop. Now!
For me I think the biggest difference between Musical!Ariel and Movie!Ariel was exuberance. In the show, and especially the way Sierra played her, she was even more lively and excited about being on land. The biggest difference is beautifully captured in Beyond My Wildest Dreams. I think a big part of that is just the way Sierra played her.
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Post by WickedElphie on Aug 24, 2009 14:08:32 GMT -5
I'd agree with you Rachel RE Musical!Ariel. There's a kind of teenybopper OMG!Squee aspect to her that's more pronunced.
I think Musical!Eric is a touch more removed from his counterpart. He's a little less self-confidant, kind of a spaz (an aodrable spaz but a spaz), a little more of a prince and a little bit less of a sailor. It doesn't help that he loses BOTH his big 'hero' moments. (For the record I'm fine with Ariel ultimately taking down Ursula but I wish Eric had given more of an assist, or at least been injured in some way.)
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Post by fathomsbelow on Aug 24, 2009 16:29:29 GMT -5
My goodness, Rachel, I think I heard that all the way over here! I can't agree more, though. It makes me smile just looking at it! *nuzzle* I did a quick search for more and found this: Somebody PLEASE tell Eric to meet a pair of scissors! But Ariel's other dress is nice.Once the music hits you, inhibitions fall away...Good question, Melissa! It would probably help if I, y'know, actually saw the show, but from what I've seen it doesn't seem too drastic. There's obviously a difference between show!Eric and movie!Eric, but they're both Eric. Stubborn, ocean-eyed young lads who want nothing more than to sail free with their favorite mermaid. What kind of differences struck you between show!Ariel and movie!Ariel? Yeah, Eric needs to see a barber about that XD. I don't think they really changed her per se, more like highlighted some things. For one, the whole wanting freedom and wanting to be treated like an adult. That and the fact that she wanted to be part of that world before his. And I agree about the excitement of being on land. I just think they tried to make her easier to relate to for today's audience, and they mentioned it in the book. |
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Post by Zavi on Aug 25, 2009 17:12:11 GMT -5
Well that's a good thing, isn't it? That she wanted to be a part of that world more than ever. Did she come across more teenager-like than in the film, more the Cimorene-kick-butt princess? I can definitely see how they wanted to make her Eric's equal--girl power and all that. I dunno if that worked, but it's nice to see the new perspective.
I'm curious now. What other goodies were mentioned in that book?
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Post by fathomsbelow on Aug 26, 2009 18:22:53 GMT -5
Yeah, she seemed more teenager-like. Not to say she was 'childish' in the film, but..more three-dimensional if that makes any sense? They really talked about all the characters in the book. One part that stuck out to me was how they said Ursula and Ariel were similar. They both wanted something, and were "girls with ambition", but they had different ways of achieving what they wanted most. Ursula's path left destruction in its wake, and Ariel's left joy, love and happiness ( not the exact quote but pretty close  ). |
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Post by Zavi on Aug 27, 2009 8:55:56 GMT -5
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Post by Coral on Aug 27, 2009 12:35:35 GMT -5
That first one is the prettiest pencil sketch of Ariel I've EVER seen. Anywhere. Not even Glen himself could do better.
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Post by fathomsbelow on Aug 27, 2009 16:21:17 GMT -5
Wow that is beautiful.
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Post by Zavi on Sept 7, 2009 18:34:06 GMT -5
Amen, indeed. It's always the hair and the flowers. Fluffy, fluffy hair. If I were Eric I'd never have my hands out of Ariel's hair, and the lady just looks gorgeous with flowers. I always smile when she has the flower in her hair sighing, "He loves me, he loves me not..."
I was looking at the second picture and it got me wondering what other things about mer-culture and human culture are different. I love it when fanfics touch upon the subtle things 'cause it brings both cultures into reality. Does anyone else like to think about that stuff?
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Post by Coral on Sept 8, 2009 10:42:26 GMT -5
I do wonder about that too, Mare! There are so many differences between the two. One of the biggest differences to me is the cultural freedom in Atlantica as opposed to what's going on up on land. Societal restrictions aren't as apparent in Atlantica and Triton seems a lot more accessible than the average human monarch.
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